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#72 ・ 2026-04-16 ・ 29 min ・ Interview

Needs vs. wants: the psychology of money anxiety (with Hao Hsu-Lieh, part 2)

如何辨別需要與想要,破解金錢焦慮的心理學|《財富自由心理學》ft. 郝旭烈(郝哥) — 下

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The Psychology of Financial Freedom, with Hao Hsu-Lieh ・ part 2 of 2 ›

About this episode

Welcome back to FIRE University — this is part two of my interview with Brother Hao (Hao Hsu-Lieh). Last time we talked about retirement and the formula for freedom. This time we go deeper: when your savings grow, why doesn't the anxiety in your heart shrink? Brother Hao incisively analyzes the psychological line between "wants" and "needs," and offers a striking idea: "Financial freedom is yours to decide." If you're at a stage of pursuing wealth but feeling exhausted, this episode will be the key prescription for finding your calm again.

Highlights Telling wants from needs: why are "needs" limited while "wants" are endless? Breaking money anxiety: how much is enough? Brother Hao teaches you to remove fear of the future through a "sense of control." The essence of investing: investing isn't about beating other people; it's about supporting the life you want. Guarding your mind: how to protect your heart in the age of social media, without being swept along by other people's success.

Quotes from this episode "All anxiety comes from uncertainty about the future; all sense of control comes from awareness of the present." "Needs are limited, wants are infinite; if you can't tell the two apart, you'll never be free."

The episode is in Mandarin Chinese. These notes are translated from my original show notes.